If we can’t have F-22’s maybe we can have a few squadrons of these?

Just caught this on the web.


Now assuming this is not a windup and considering that the f-15 has good legs and a proven combat capability against Mig 29s (not certain about Su-27’s) and that this is a brand new aircraft, not refurbished it might be a good idea for the RAAF if we are defintely going to lose the aardvarks.

Lets face it it’s proably going to outperform the JSF’s in everything except an aerial knife fight

13 Responses to “If we can’t have F-22’s maybe we can have a few squadrons of these?”

  1. Lermontov Says:

    I’ve always had affection for the F15’s. Don’t know why. have a great weekend

  2. Moko Says:

    My personal favourite is the F-16. To me that’s the modern day version of the spitfire. Just sexy. I saw a Singapore airforce F-16 at the Amberley airshow – (got some pics of it) – with a full load. Noice.

    Is it true no F-15 has been shot down in combat?. I think it’s under rated really.

  3. chazfh Says:

    Moko, allegedly so. Also one landed with one wing missing… it’s one tough plane.

  4. Dr Yobbo Says:

    We’ve never had F15s or F16s have we? (By we I mean the RAAF)

    Had an Eagle as an Airfix model as a kid. Though the F14 was the one I always thought was coolest. Swept wings, the ‘Lamborghini gullwing doors’ of fighter planes.

  5. Maggie Says:

    I WON’T say F111. *s*

  6. AusGaz Says:

    Dr. Yobbo

    We (the RAAF) bought F18s – Hornets last time around (the other option was F16’s).

    They didn’t like the 16’s single engine was they main reason they choose the 18.

    They didn’t consider F15s because at the time the 15s were primarily air superiority (ie air tio air) and they wanted multipurpose (air to mud as well).

    Chaz – Those updated F15s would have to be cheaper than the F22’s. We could buy twice as many.

  7. chazfh Says:

    Dr Y Tomcat was good and would have made a good land based aircraft esp when armed with ye olde AIM-54’s also towards the end of it’s life it went multirole. For our land mass it would have fitted in well. But it was not meant to be..

    AG. Yep much cheaper, then all we’d have to do is train enough pilots!!!! Oh and pay them correctly!

  8. Therbs Says:

    Nah, I want the F-22’s. But these beauties look fine. brendan Nelson should never have been left with the Defense money bickie tin. JSF just aren’t good enough.

  9. Damian Says:

    ADF doctrine goes through phases of air/sea-gappishness, doesn’t it? So when that particular tide is high, they want machines that can go in fast and strike with the hammer of God before anyone on his way here can pull his AAW finger out. Perhaps that is not possible in the age of satellites.

    I’m fully appreciative of the boffins who don’t see us needing much of an air superiority capability. More AAW shipping, the tyranny of distance and the inevitability of manned flight in combat becoming obselete soon. I’d be even keener to get started early with gaining access to the rail guns the USN is developing than F22s. Not that I’d say no to the shiny, shiny raptors…

    Chaz, have you read much David Drake?

  10. chazfh Says:

    Damian, rail guns *drool*
    funnily enough no I’ve seen his books but never actually bought one

  11. Damian Says:

    There are a few in the Baen free library, if I recall correctly. Anyhow, Tank Lords FTW. He imagines plasma weapons much like what we now think of as rail guns must surely become, and he seems remarkably clueful regarding tank tactics. Which would make sense, I gather he drove one…

    But yes, something that can turn any aircraft or missile in radar range into so much burning wreckage, almost instantly, must be worthwhile. The energy requirements may be a little on the stupendous side for anything but nuclear ships for the time being, though.

  12. TOBP-Steve Says:

    A neighbor/friend of mine builds the F-22’s at the nearby Lockheed plant, and another friend does software for them, so for the sake of their jobs I’d love it if Obey bill (named after the douchebag congressman) was scrapped and the F-22 was sold to low-risk countries like Aus, NZ, the UK etc.

  13. chazfh Says:

    Steve, do you think they’d let us borrow one? you know for a quick spin around the block? Maybe?

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